How Many Times?

Does a guy have to tell a falsehood before people stop believing him? The Bible clearly teaches us that we cannot know the day or the hour of Christ’s return, and yet Harold Camping claims to know exactly when that will happen. This from someone who has told everyone to leave the church. Now he’s claiming that Christ did come back on Saturday, just in a more spiritual sense. How is this not special pleading, trying to force the facts to fit the theory? It looks just a little too convenient for this utter skeptic to believe. Harold Camping is a heretic. He can’t even say the ecumenical creeds, for crying out loud. You know, the sections that go “I believe in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church”? How credible is it for Camping to claim that he loves Jesus but can’t stand His bride? Plainly, he does not have the eyes of faith to see the bride of Christ as she will be, as pictured in the end of Revelation, which is how I argue we should ultimately see the church. Camping has disgusted me for years, and this weasel-wording around his utter failure does not help the Christian cause in any way, shape, or form. He has made a laughing-stock out of his version of Christianity, which isn’t mine, or 95% of the rest of the church’s, either. What he keeps on failing to realize (and this is only if he is sincere!) is that his predictions bring shame to the name of Christ, and ridicule to God’s people. He needs to repent immediately. He is a false teacher, and is leading people astray from the faith of the Bible.

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12 Comments

  1. Adam Parker said,

    May 24, 2011 at 9:36 am

    I absolutely guarantee you – most of the people who believed his May 21st prediction WILL buy his “spiritualized” judgment day. For most of them, the possibility of error on Campings part is not even there. These are Biblically illiterate people who have invested so much of themselves and their money that they will want all of this to make sense. But you’re absolutely right – repentance is (and has been) exactly what must happen.

  2. May 24, 2011 at 9:43 am

    Tell us what you really think, bro.

  3. greenbaggins said,

    May 24, 2011 at 9:46 am

    :-) The problem with phrasing any of this stuff any softer is that then I would be giving Camping some room. He is a false teacher and a heretic. I don’t give such people any room.

  4. Hugh McCann said,

    May 24, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Like the Millerites (SDA) and Russellites (JWs), Camping (FSI) has annihilated Hell, cursed Christ’s bride (while going out from us), called faith a work, and spiritualized Advent II. Pure Bovine Scatology, of course. II Peter 3:16.

    We are currently trying to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable at http://www.departout.com, a site for Campingites, ex-Campingties and anti-Campingites to wrestle.

    Last night was a massive press conference, since Satan’s spokesman bought thousands of billboards and a fleet of garish RVs proclaiming that Christ would return last Saturday, 6:00PM, local time. (Check local listings for a date and time near you! ;)

    Having familiarity with Family Radio over the years, I am grieved and infuriated, but God will have his way with this serpentine servant of the father of lies.

  5. Reed Here said,

    May 24, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    1Ti 4:7; 2Ti 2:23; Tit 3:10.

    Pray for this man to repent (be regenerated?) before it is too late. Pray that his “Oct. 21″ no-one-know-the-day-or-hour meeting with Jesus will not find him unprepared.

  6. G Browning said,

    May 24, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    I saw on Yahoo that he said he got the date wrong, (Sorry)…more billboards to come. Now the date is Oct 21st.

  7. May 24, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    As Lane said, NOW Camping says that Jesus really did return on May21. He just did so in a “spiritualized” state. NOW he says that the REAL judgement day is October 21. In other words, Camping now has the guaranteed opportunity to be wrong twice in the same year – and four times in the last 17 years (starting in 1994).

    Camping fits the biblical definition of a fool. In the Bible, a fool isn’t someone who is ignorant or stupid. A fool is someone who has been properly instructed – and understands the instruction – but goes his own way anyway. That’s Camping – formerly Reformed, now a heretic.

  8. David Gadbois said,

    May 25, 2011 at 12:19 am

    Camping is certainly a heretic, but he does seem to me to be fairly sincere about it. Watching him it is hard to not suspect that is probably some mental illness at work, perhaps he is senile. But he also has gone out of his way to steadfastly ignore the widespread correction and rebuke from, well, almost everyone else in Christendom outside of his tiny following.

  9. drake said,

    May 26, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    GB,

    You said,

    “He can’t even say the ecumenical creeds, for crying out loud. You know, the sections that go “I believe in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church”? How credible is it for Camping to claim that he loves Jesus but can’t stand His bride?”

    Can you say as the The Sixth Council states in its Definition of Faith: “For as his most holy and immaculate animated flesh was not destroyed because it was deified but continued in its own state and nature…SO
    ALSO HIS HUMAN WILL, ALTHOUGH DEIFIED, was not suppressed, but
    was rather preserved according to the saying of Gregory Theologus: “His will
    [i.e., the Saviour’s] is not contrary to God but altogether deified.” ?

    How is that you explain participation in God/deification?

    When you assert that Camping, “can’t stand His bride” are you asserting that someone who is not an active member of a local Church is not a member of the visible Church?

  10. Hugh McCann said,

    May 26, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    {Psst, Lane: {He’s back…..}

    And you thought you’d posted a cut-and-dry piece on the heretic Harold!
    But, no!
    Were Christ’s body & will were deified?
    Explain participation in God (deification).
    Are you saying a non-member is a non-member?

    This is such fun, ain’t it?!

  11. Brad B said,

    May 27, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    When men in their expression of religion feel free to do, or say things without the protection of a head, these same men will always in due time, embarrass themselves and leave collateral casualties in their wake. Harold Camping is a heretic by definition, his followers are those whose ears itch to hear religion they can tolerate instead of sound doctrine. If there are any sheep in his fold, I pray that they have heard and have seen the public exposing and shaming of this heretic of the Christian faith and repent of their willingness to embrace such folly.

  12. Daniel Ritchie said,

    May 28, 2011 at 1:18 am

    “How credible is it for Camping to claim that he loves Jesus but can’t stand His bride?”

    The visible Church, which is also catholic or universal under the Gospel (not confined to one nation, as before under the law), consists of all those throughout the world that profess the true religion; and of their children: and is the kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ, the house and family of God, out of which there is no ordinary possibility of salvation. (Westminster Confession 25:2)

    The idea of Churchless Christianity is not a Reformed concept. Instead, it appears to be one of the many novelties of evangelicalism that thinks, because you have “a relationship with Jesus” [even the devil has a relationship with Jesus, albeit a bad one], that you can love Christ while hating his bride.


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