Temporary Lull

I am extremely busy this week. I have Presbytery coming up tomorrow through Saturday, and it’s over six hours away. Since I’m not getting back until Saturday night, I have to get my sermon and bulletins done today. So, I will not be blogging again until Sunday. See you then.

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17 Comments

  1. Anne Ivy said,

    January 24, 2007 at 2:36 pm

    Have a good time or whatever it is one does at “Presbytery” (I’ve no idea).

    Drive carefully!

  2. Todd said,

    January 24, 2007 at 2:59 pm

    For while Lane’s gone:

    http://federalvisionfollies.blogspot.com/

  3. greenbaggins said,

    January 24, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    Todd, why did you provide a link to a nincompoop?

  4. Todd said,

    January 24, 2007 at 3:59 pm

    He made me laugh, and I wanted to share my joy.

  5. greenbaggins said,

    January 24, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    That doesn’t speak well of your sense of humor. I can laugh at myself, if the joke is funny. But this isn’t even funny. It’s simply a man with a board smacking people. Now, foetal communion, *that’s* funny.

  6. Todd said,

    January 24, 2007 at 4:03 pm

    Foetal vision. I thought that was pretty good too.

  7. Xon said,

    January 24, 2007 at 4:46 pm

    “Foetal vision” was funny (except for a part), and a good bit of the site Todd posted is also funny. To each his own, I guess.

  8. Lee said,

    January 24, 2007 at 5:31 pm

    I didn’t think Foetal Vision was all that funny. But I can see how the Follies site and Foetal Vision are the same sort of funny. I hope Lane you don’t think one was funny because it made fun of FV, and the other because it made fun of TR.

  9. greenbaggins said,

    January 24, 2007 at 5:35 pm

    Not at all, Lee. As I said, if it had been really funny, I would have laughed. But it’s just stupid, imo. I guess I do prefer Horatian to Juvenalian, though the occasional hammer blow is not a bad thing (I like slap-stick on occasion, for instance).

  10. Todd said,

    January 24, 2007 at 5:47 pm

    Guy Waters messing around with his homeowner’s rules like he does with the WCF is hilarious.

    “It’s almost like he deliberately twists the wording to suit his own purposes. He takes things out of context, makes straw-man arguments, quibbles over insignificant details, equivocates on key words, denies the plain language of our document, and completely whiffs when it comes to constructing any sustained use of logic.”

  11. Lee said,

    January 25, 2007 at 12:10 pm

    Todd and Lane,
    I guess that is my problem with both the Foetal Vision and the FV Follies site. They would be funny, if it were not obvious that real hostility toward people were underneath. You quote shows for example that the Follies site believes Guy Waters deliberately twists words in order to oppose a view. Quite a claim. One that should be discussed in the open not in sarcasm. The Foetal Vision made a few comments that showed a real hostility to those that opposed Lig Ducan, if I remember correctly. Why not deal with it in the open?
    I guess I have always thought that be sarcastic and mock others, one needs to have a real relationship with the person being the ‘butt of the joke’. If there is no relationship or the relationship is pure hostility, joking seems out of place to me.

  12. January 25, 2007 at 12:32 pm

    The site is only open to invited bloggers. What a bummer.

  13. Todd said,

    January 25, 2007 at 1:30 pm

    “You quote shows for example that the Follies site believes Guy Waters deliberately twists words in order to oppose a view. Quite a claim. One that should be discussed in the open not in sarcasm.”

    Why not both?

    http://federal-vision.com/

  14. Todd said,

    January 25, 2007 at 1:32 pm

    David, the site is open to all again now, I think, although it’s a kinder and gentler site now.

    http://federalvisionfollies.blogspot.com/

  15. Xon said,

    January 25, 2007 at 3:37 pm

    Technically, Lee, the satirical piece had one of Guy Waters’ neighbors saying “It’s almost as if he deliberately twists words…..” This is just the sort of thing you would expect a complaining member of the homeowner’s association to say, hence the humor. But this is not a direct claim that Waters really does twist words deliberately.

    As for me, I don’t make any claims to Waters’ motives, whether he is being deliberate or not. I just claim that, for whatever reason, he misreads FV people badly. This is ‘objectively’ demonstrable, in my opinion.

  16. Lee said,

    January 25, 2007 at 6:03 pm

    Xon,
    Your claim he misreads is a different claim than the one about his motives. Perhaps that is why I did not find either one of the pieces all that funny. If we disagree, let us disagree like men: boldly and openly, but also fairly. Even with the ‘almost’ it still seems like a shot Mr. Waters motivation, and that is not objectively demonstrable. Foetal Vision also took a shot at the motives of those who practice infant communion. They did not deal with the actual theories of Dr. Jordan about babies in utero receving communion from the mother. And then their adding the “bring it on” comment was just too much for me. I am all for debates, just not cheap shots.

    As for sarcasm and good debate. Maybe, but sarcasm rarely comes off good and is the “last resort of the losers” (from Little Miss Sunshine). Sorry I couldn’t resist. Go see the movie. Anyway, as an example of sarcasm being non-productive, how many people think John Robbins is a good critic? He has a lot of sarcasm, but not many listeners.

  17. markhorne said,

    January 27, 2007 at 10:35 pm

    Little Miss Sunshine was an incredible movie.


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